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Canada Line YVR AddFare coming Mon Jan 18: here’s how it works

The Canada Line at YVR.

The Canada Line at YVR.

Whoosh — the Regional Transportation Commissioner has just approved the YVR AddFare for the Canada Line, which will come into effect on Monday, January 18.

The AddFare will actually be implemented in a different way than we earlier proposed. Here’s the details:

A diagram of how the YVR AddFare will work. Image from the <a href=http://www.translinkcommission.org/html/yvr_add_fare_decision.html>Regional Transportation Commissioner</a>.

A diagram of how the YVR AddFare will work. Image from the Regional Transportation Commissioner.

  • The new YVR AddFare will cost $5, on top of the regular fare.
  • The AddFare will only apply to anyone buying cash fare tickets at any Canada Line station on Sea Island, for travel from the airport to Richmond or Vancouver. (Said another way: the AddFare only applies to those buying cash fares for travel off of Sea Island.) Ticket machines at these stations will automatically charge the correct amount.
  • Anyone using pre-paid fares will be exempt and will not be charged an additional fare for any trip on the Canada Line to or from the airport. Pre-paid fares include DayPasses, FareCards, FareSaver Tickets, U-Passes, Employer Passes and the BC Government Bus Pass Program.
  • Also, travel on the Canada Line is free between stations on Sea Island.
  • By the way, this new fare was approved in principle in 2004 as one of the ways to pay for the construction of the Canada Line. Clarification: The funds from the AddFare will go directly to TransLink to cover the construction costs.
  • And just to refresh your memory, the stations on Sea Island are YVR-Airport, Sea Island Centre and Templeton.

Please check out the very full explanation of the AddFare and its history over at the Regional Transportation Commissioner’s website.

Also, since someone will surely ask, here is the answer to one of the scenarios you might encounter (a colleague was bending his brain thinking of these).

Q. Let’s say I’m leaving the airport and have a one-zone FareSaver ticket, but I am travelling during the peak time so must upgrade with a $1.25 AddFare. I put my FareSaver into the machine and upgrade to a two-zone ticket, which looks just like a cash fare ticket. Is that considered a cash fare that forces me to buy the Canada Line AddFare? Or is this still considered an exemption?

A. The ticket will be considered exempt, but the machine will indicate “airport” on the ticket to alleviate any enforcement issues.

Feel free to leave your comments, as always :)

Edit! Make sure to check out the Q&A post about the YVR AddFare for even more details.


70 Comments

  • By ben K, January 7, 2010 @ 4:07 pm

    Wow; this sounds quite reasonable, and I did not have optimism for sucha decision! I always (try to) travel with spare FareSavers in my wallet, so this should present no issue, nor discourage me from casually visiting YVR as often as I might otherwise.

    I also had no idea that intra-Sea-Island travel was free. Does that mean there will never be a fare inspector west of Bridgeport?

  • By Jhenifer Pabillano, January 7, 2010 @ 4:11 pm

    I know, hey? The implementation really got worked out.

    I’ll ask about the fare inspectors. I’m going to guess that you wouldn’t need one west of Templeton, since you still need a fare to get on to Sea Island, just not within it.

  • By peter@kieser.ca, January 7, 2010 @ 4:14 pm

    “Anyone using pre-paid fares will be exempt and will not be charged an additional fare for any trip on the Canada Line to or from the airport.”

    Does this include West Coast Express commuter passes?

  • By Jhenifer Pabillano, January 7, 2010 @ 4:30 pm

    Hmm. Not sure. Will ask.

  • By Matt L, January 7, 2010 @ 4:32 pm

    Or instead of trying to think of brain twisting scenarios, we could simply not confuse the public and not set an unfortunate precedent of “premium” services. Particularly when there are no free alternatives (the provincial government philosophy with respect to bridge tolling/premium road pricing).

    As for Sea Island being free, that’s just another example of car users being subsidized. Transit users with their fares pay for the “free” parking lot shuttle for car drivers. Translink should get a cut of YVR parking income to compensate for this free shuttle service.

    Yes I know YVR made a contribution to Canada Line construction, and for that they get a “premium” service for customers to reach downtown (which the customers it seems are paying the premium as well). Paying for ongoing service to their airport from their parking lot should be a responsibility for YVR as well.

    Yet again Translink (Metro Vancouver taxpayers) gets screwed in deals with higher levels of government.

  • By Ryan, January 7, 2010 @ 5:12 pm

    Was wondering how it will work when I am travelling on Sundays or holidays with my pass, and I am normally allowed to take 1 adult with me. Will they also be exempt from the AddFare on these days still?

  • By Cliff, January 7, 2010 @ 5:22 pm

    As service between the stations on Sea Island is free, I’ll be doing all my pickups and drop offs at Templeton to avoid the traffic at the terminal.

    As the addfare is quite easy to avoid through the use of prepaid fares, it’s essentially non-existent.

    Will DayPasses purchased on Sea Island station vending machines be subject to the $5 addfare? If that’s the case, I would just pre-purchase a daypass from a fare dealer within the airport.

  • By ;-), January 7, 2010 @ 5:24 pm

    So is the Addfare charged between Templeton and YVR station? I hear the public lots are moving to the Templeton station in the future.

  • By Cliff, January 7, 2010 @ 5:24 pm

    Oh and to add to that. What happens on Sundays and holidays? Does that mean that those of us with monthly farecards traveling with a friend on Sunday between Sea Island and the rest of the system don’t have to pay the $5 charge as well?

  • By Cliff, January 7, 2010 @ 5:29 pm

    Or what if I initially paid cash, then used a faresaver to pay an addfare? How would anyone be able to discern the difference?

  • By Patrick M., January 7, 2010 @ 5:32 pm

    If this increase in fare cost going to be permanent? Presumably it will drop off after some years. Also, will this be done for the Evergreen line? Since it’s being constructed, shouldn’t the users of that line be charged to use the line until it’s been paid for?

    It seems to me that this is a pretty haphazard fare grab.

    So if it goes towards construction costs of the line, does it remove the amount paid for by YVR? Does it take into account the reduction in operating costs related to running the bus route to the airport?

    I’m not sure I buy the argument that the construction costs should be recouped anyways, otherwise shouldn’t we be increasing the costs on all new routes? Should new busses cost more until they’ve been paid off? It sounds ridiculous, but it seems like the same argument still applies.

  • By CJ Stebbing, January 7, 2010 @ 6:42 pm

    So travel between Temp, SIC, and YVR-Airport. Is free? That makes sence for the people going to the parking.

  • By ..., January 7, 2010 @ 6:54 pm

    Since this topic is about the Canada Line, I’ve got a question. Why aren’t there any bilingual signs for the Canada Line, and same thing for the announcements.

  • By Gregory of BritishStudent.ca, January 7, 2010 @ 7:28 pm

    If you don’t like it then leave Vancouver (there’s no AddFare to get out)!
    /joke

    I’m glad passes were finally exempt, it means I can meet visiting friends rather than tell them to find their own way. I thought the AddFare might be less though.

  • By Mark, January 7, 2010 @ 8:10 pm

    I have one question: Will the Concession Month Pass cover this “YVR AddFare”?

  • By Dennis, January 7, 2010 @ 8:30 pm

    If I want to go from Waterfront to YVR and back to Waterfront, and I buy my ticket from a TVM at Waterfront, do I need to add $5 on my fare when I get to YVR for the way back?

  • By E, January 7, 2010 @ 8:45 pm

    This sounds both unnecessarily complicated, and a cash grab. What’s to encourage people to make use of the transit system if they have to hand over more than a half hour’s minimum wage pay to do so?

    And what of airport employees who rely on transit? How will this effect them?

  • By ;-), January 7, 2010 @ 9:15 pm

    On Sundays and Holidays my monthly pass is good for 2 adults and four children…. Wow does this mean a $30 savings for trips to the Sea Island!

  • By TheWorkingPoor, January 7, 2010 @ 9:42 pm

    I guess faresavers at the YVR 7 Eleven are going to be really popular. Are they going to promote this to tourists? Or is this an intelligence test? Or will faresaver sales be banned?

  • By ???, January 7, 2010 @ 9:49 pm

    Hey the Canada Line machines sells Daypasses… will Daypasses sold on Sea Island be charged extra for the YVR AddFare?

    If a single zone is $2.50 and $3.75… I guess the YVR AddFare would make it $7.50 to get to Richmond, but to continue to Vancouver would be $8.75 for 90 minutes.

  • By Sally, January 7, 2010 @ 10:14 pm

    Well that will work brilliantly with my UPass and I will be able to continue my trips to Tim Horton’s at the Airport!!

  • By David, January 7, 2010 @ 10:25 pm

    1-zone fare…
    $2.75
    2-zone fare…
    $3.75
    3-zone fare…
    $5.00

    Getting tourists to pay for our transit system…
    Priceless

  • By George P., January 8, 2010 @ 2:09 am

    Airport employees are effectively exempt from the addfare by virtue of travel being free between Templeton Station and YVR with an employee pass. Why? They already screwed us by making us (staff) park OUR cars at Templeton Station and take that every-eight-minute disaster of a toy train to the terminal.

    The Canada Line stops at nothing to find people whose lives it can somehow make miserable.

  • By Reva, January 8, 2010 @ 2:30 am

    What about Olympic event tickets which are supposed to give the ticket-holder unlimited access to all of TransLink’s transit services for the day of that event — will those be considered pre-paid fares? What about the 6-week special-issue 2010 Games transit passes?

    Not that I have tickets to any events — I’m just curious.

  • By Reva, January 8, 2010 @ 2:54 am

    Also, I heard a brief news story a couple days ago but can’t find it now, which mentioned that for the duration of the Olympics, taxicabs will not be allowed to park at YVR and that there will be a designated lot near the airport to which taxi customers will need to take the Canada Line if they want to get a cab. Can you confirm this Jhenifer? If so, which station will the taxi lot be at? And also if so, will there be any compensation for taxi drivers who would ordinarily be carrying passengers directly from the airport?

    Thanks for looking into all our questions, Jhenifer. You do a great job.

  • By Cliff, January 8, 2010 @ 3:22 am

    She does do a great job. She’s going to be in for quite a surprise when she logs in later to check on the blog.

  • By ;-), January 8, 2010 @ 7:31 am

    I found the taxi story on CKNW
    http://www.cknw.com/Channels/Reg/NewsLocal/Story.aspx?ID=1181952

    Unlike VANOC vehicles, other vehicles haven’t been constantly screened. You have no idea what the vehicle previous origins have been. Keeping these vehicles from critical public or operations area is a wise thing to do.

  • By Joe, January 8, 2010 @ 8:00 am

    If you want to save the $5 at the Airport or run out of Faresaver tickets, you can actually purchase them there to save the $5 fee.

    FareDealers in Richmond
    Pharmasave #22
    Vancouver International Airport, Domestic Terminal Bld Level 1
    Richmond, BC
    V7B 1X8
    (604) 303-7033

  • By ???, January 8, 2010 @ 8:24 am

    If Daypasses are currently $9 (that’s just 25 cents more than the 2 zone fare, plus YVR AddFare). Or would the Daypasses from the machines be $14?

  • By Jhenifer Pabillano, January 8, 2010 @ 9:52 am

    I’m working on getting answers to all your questions, but so far I do have the answer for Ryan and Cliff:

    Was wondering how it will work when I am travelling on Sundays or holidays with my pass, and I am normally allowed to take 1 adult with me. Will they also be exempt from the AddFare on these days still?

    Since a monthly FareCard is exempt, additional travellers for the Sunday group offer would also be exempt.

  • By Jhenifer Pabillano, January 8, 2010 @ 9:58 am

    PS: I think I’ll make another post just for all your questions in it later on today. As I’m sure lots of people are asking the same thing!

  • By Jhenifer Pabillano, January 8, 2010 @ 10:17 am

    Answers!

    Mark:
    I have one question: Will the Concession Month Pass cover this “YVR AddFare”?

    Yes, the Concession pass covers the Canada Line YVR AddFare.

  • By Jhenifer Pabillano, January 8, 2010 @ 10:18 am

    Dennis:
    If I want to go from Waterfront to YVR and back to Waterfront, and I buy my ticket from a TVM at Waterfront, do I need to add $5 on my fare when I get to YVR for the way back?

    Yes, you would still have to buy the Canada Line YVR AddFare. Where you buy your fare-zone ticket is irrelevant; what matters is the inbound travel from Templeton to Bridgeport. The police will be able to identify that the ticket is not valid for exemption from the YVR AddFare.

    Edit: Sorry, I had a wrong answer up before. Here’s what it should be:

    This should actually be a conditional answer. If you travel out of YVR before your original ticket expires, you are fine. If not, and you require a cash or credit card purchase for the return ticket from Sea Island, then you have to pay the YVR AddFare.

  • By Jhenifer Pabillano, January 8, 2010 @ 10:21 am

    Cliff/TheWorkingPoor/???: I’ve put your questions together here since they were related.

    Will DayPasses purchased on Sea Island station vending machines be subject to the $5 addfare? If that’s the case, I would just pre-purchase a daypass from a fare dealer within the airport.

    I guess faresavers at the YVR 7 Eleven are going to be really popular. Are they going to promote this to tourists? Or is this an intelligence test? Or will faresaver sales be banned?

    No, the passes are the same cost wherever they are purchased. No YVR AddFare will be applied to passes bought at the airport.

    No, we will not be banning prepaid fare sales at the airport.

  • By zack, January 8, 2010 @ 10:31 am

    Whew!! Thank god pass users are exempt from this fare, (including me). LOL :)

  • By ben K, January 8, 2010 @ 11:15 am

    So if someone e.g. pays cash at a TVM at Bridgeport for a one-zone transfer, that transfer is valid only for a westbound trip on Sea Island?

    The TransLink Commission statement only says “[P]assengers needing to buy a ticket at a ticket vending machine at these three stations [on Sea Island] will be charged the $5.00 premium.”

    In my example, is the traveler then expected to somehow subsequently pay the $5 surcharge to travel back to Bridgeport on the same transfer?

  • By Jhenifer Pabillano, January 8, 2010 @ 11:28 am

    Cliff: Or what if I initially paid cash, then used a faresaver to pay an addfare? How would anyone be able to discern the difference?

    Just wanted to clarify: as far as I know, you can’t use a FareSaver to pay for an AddFare. Has anyone actually done it before?

  • By Patrick M., January 8, 2010 @ 11:59 am

    Naw, you totally can, I’ve done it a lot when I spent a month without a monthly pass after moving back to Vancouver in mid October.

    It’s just a little complicated, and really annoying since there is no consistency on the line as to how to stick in the tickets. Ad-fare you put the faresaver in face up, on the initial ticket stamper on the expo/millenium lines, it’s face down, on Canada line validators it’s face up (I believe) and on busses it’s face down.

    GAH!

  • By Jhenifer Pabillano, January 8, 2010 @ 12:43 pm

    ben K:

    So if someone e.g. pays cash at a TVM at Bridgeport for a one-zone transfer, that transfer is valid only for a westbound trip on Sea Island?

    The TransLink Commission statement only says “[P]assengers needing to buy a ticket at a ticket vending machine at these three stations [on Sea Island] will be charged the $5.00 premium.”

    In my example, is the traveler then expected to somehow subsequently pay the $5 surcharge to travel back to Bridgeport on the same transfer?

    Yes, that’s the answer. Anyone who is using a non pre-paid ticket to travel from Templeton to Bridgeport is subject to the Canada Line YVR AddFare. (A cash upgrade for extra zones to an initial FareSaver qualifies as prepaid.) In the case you describe, you would have to purchase the Canada Line YVR AddFare at one of the three stations on Sea Island before travelling back to Bridgeport.

    Edit: Sorry, I had a wrong answer up before. Here’s what it should be:

    This should actually be a conditional answer. If you travel out of YVR before your original ticket expires, you are fine. If not, and you require a cash or credit card purchase for the return ticket from Sea Island, then you have to pay the YVR AddFare.

  • By geoff, January 8, 2010 @ 12:44 pm

    faresavers as addfare – same question here, can one use 2 1-zone tickets to pay for a 3-zone ticket? i have seen this on buses, and drivers would then take the 2 validated tickets and issue a 3-zone transfer. if this is allowed, why not the machines? dont forget the top-up amounts are different for tickets and cash. one would actually save $0.60 if topping up with a ticket (worth $1.90) instead of depositing $2.50 when upgrading from 1 zone to 3.

  • By Graham J., January 8, 2010 @ 12:54 pm

    Re: Return trip within 90 minutes to and from Sea Island when purchasing ticket from a TVM off-island (as mentioned by Dennis, ben K)

    After reading the report on the Commissioner’s decision, I’m finding this point to be confusing, particularly on ben K’s recent point, but also on ???’s question about DayPasses. The report seems to say that the Sea Island AddFare is only required to be purchased if you’re “needing to buy a ticket at a ticket vending machine at these three stations.” Wouldn’d your already purchasing a ticked, regardless of where in the system, preclude that “need”? I understand where this would get difficult when it comes to enforcement and one’s obligation to show proof of payment, but that’s a hefty AddFare to not ask for clarification about when wants to just hop off the train to, say, visit shops or the public observation deck at YVR, or even simply not want to have to leave the train in order to secure a seat for one’s return journey. Any clarification here would be much appreciated, thank you ahead of time, Jhenifer.

    -

    Re: AddFare using FareSaver

    I hope that in order to cover all bases – possible scenarios – that they’ll include this possibility in the machines as Partick M. seems to have it right on this point. I know that a long while ago I regularly would purchase One Zone books of FareSaver tickets as I most often would only have to travel within Zone 3, but on occasion would need to travel to Zone 1 and it was simply a matter of combining the face value of two one zone tickets in order to make the sum value of a three zone tranfer, accomplished by letting the driver know ahead of time so that he could punch the right buttons, have the bus-board machine take both tickets and issue me a a new regular white transfer for three zones (If I’m reading what you’re asking correctly, Jhenifer).

  • By Graham J., January 8, 2010 @ 1:19 pm

    Woops, I take back my question of a daypass (and some poor spelling due to fast typing :) ) as it’s been answered, but still am curious about the application of some of the wording in the report, “if…need” in particular. What constitutes that “need”. I’ll have to take a closer look at the report. I wouldn’t want to bring friends along a short trip to the airport and return for whatever reason and either pay too much or – dread the thought – realize that I misinformed them only when we’re being issued tickets for not having paid enough. Thanks again.

  • By Adam, January 8, 2010 @ 2:08 pm

    Warning – The 7-11 at the airport is often out of faresaver tickets – both times I arrived back in vancouver and tried to buy some there, they were out of stock. I’m sure this will be worse after the addfare comes in! I’ve always wondered why the skytrain ticket machines don’t sell faresaver tickets? I had a friend who thought he was buying them and accidentally bought 10 one zone tickets at once!

  • By Jhenifer Pabillano, January 8, 2010 @ 2:21 pm

    Graham — I’m asking for clarification on the point you’ve made.

  • By Graham J., January 8, 2010 @ 2:35 pm

    Thank you muchly for you efforts, especially on a day like today. I think back to Cliff’s comment made this morning and particularly agree with him on a day like today, above and beyond your valuable regular work to help clarify such information for us all.

    “By Cliff, January 8, 2010 @ 3:22 am

    She does do a great job. She’s going to be in for quite a surprise when she logs in later to check on the blog.”

  • By Jhenifer Pabillano, January 8, 2010 @ 2:36 pm

    Thanks Graham – that’s very nice of you to say :)

  • By Jhenifer Pabillano, January 8, 2010 @ 3:21 pm

    Graham, ben K, Cliff:

    OK, after some discussion, it turns out you guys are right about this one! Here is what the answer to the scenario should be (I’ll amend the comments above so they’ve got the right answer too.)

    ben K:

    So if someone e.g. pays cash at a TVM at Bridgeport for a one-zone transfer, that transfer is valid only for a westbound trip on Sea Island?

    The TransLink Commission statement only says “[P]assengers needing to buy a ticket at a ticket vending machine at these three stations [on Sea Island] will be charged the $5.00 premium.”

    In my example, is the traveler then expected to somehow subsequently pay the $5 surcharge to travel back to Bridgeport on the same transfer?

    Okay, it looks like this should actually be a conditional answer. If he travels back to Bridgeport before his original ticket expires, he’s fine. If not, and he requires a cash or credit card purchase for the return ticket from Sea Island, then he has to pay the YVR AddFare.

  • By Jhenifer Pabillano, January 8, 2010 @ 3:55 pm

    Reva:

    Also, I heard a brief news story a couple days ago but can’t find it now, which mentioned that for the duration of the Olympics, taxicabs will not be allowed to park at YVR and that there will be a designated lot near the airport to which taxi customers will need to take the Canada Line if they want to get a cab. Can you confirm this Jhenifer? If so, which station will the taxi lot be at? And also if so, will there be any compensation for taxi drivers who would ordinarily be carrying passengers directly from the airport?

    This actually is a question for YVR, but I gave their media folks a call to see what the situation is. I’m told that things are basically going to be exactly the same as usual at the airport — all vehicles with YVR commercial licenses (which includes taxis) can pick up and drop off at the curb, and you can still be dropped off at the curb by a friend/family member too. Visit the YVR website for updates though, and fill in their contact form if you have any further questions.

    Also, see ;-)’s comment above for a link to a very short CKNW article about the taxis in case you are interested.

  • By Cliff, January 8, 2010 @ 5:30 pm

    You can indeed pay for an addfare using a fare saver. I’m not sure how you would do so with a machine, I’m guessing you just validate it and anyone who asks would see both the orignial pass/ticket and the faresaver used as an addfare.

    I’ve done it on a bus and it’s quite simple. I don’t think there’s an actual set of buttons the driver pushes, he just makes the machine eat the tickets and he just issues the appropriate ticket.

    If you have a monthly pass, once the faresaver expires, then you’d need to pay a new addfare if the circumstances warrant it.

    There are some limitations. If I remember correctly, the back of the ticket says you’re not allowed to combine adult faresavers to pay for a multi zone concession fare and vice versa. In other words, can’t mix and match.

    I’m pretty sure combining two adult or two concession to pay for a multizone (addfare) fare of the appropriate type should be just fine.

  • By zack, January 8, 2010 @ 7:43 pm

    Is the YVR-addfare also going to affect travelers between Bridgeport and Richmond-Brighouse, because I heard some rumors about it.

  • By Kenny, January 9, 2010 @ 12:07 pm

    Zack – I don’t think that’s possible, as the YVR-addfare can only affect people travelling from a Sea Island Station to a station not on Sea Island – a Bridgeport to Richmond trip doesn’t go on Sea Island, so no difference from now.

    I don’t think it’s possible to pay for an addfare using faresavers at TVMs -

    Bus drivers have you validate say 2 1-zone faresavers, which have the same value as a 3-zone ticket, so they take the 2 validated faresavers away from you and then print a 3-zone ticket.

    At the TVM, to get an addfare, you stick the faresaver into the ticket slot, and then press the number of additional zones you need on the screen, and then it asks for the money; I don’t think its possible to stick a second faresaver into the slot.

  • By Eugene T.S. Wong, January 10, 2010 @ 2:22 pm

    I’m surprised that people are *still* using 2 1-zone faresavers in place of 1 3-zone. With the old kinds, it was actually written on the back of the faresaver, that it could be used as addfare. Then they changed it, and we aren’t allowed anymore, according to my recollection.

    1 thing that always confused me, was that 2 1-zones was cheaper than 1 3-zone faresaver. I couldn’t understand the value of buying a 3-zone book. I tried to tell people, but they looked at me as if I was weird. I am, but even still. ;^)

    Jhenifer, could you write a blog entry, explaining the rules about 1-zone faresavers? I think that Translink should make it cheaper to use a 3-zone, than 2 1-zones, but people should still be allowed to use 2 1-zones.

  • By zack, January 10, 2010 @ 7:29 pm

    Yikes! :-0 I hope you guys are not saying that using 2 1 zone Faresavers as an excuse to use it for 3 zones is illegal. Because I used that method numerously before which made it easier to pass through 3 zones rather than paying $5 for it. Since 2 1 zone Faresavers equal to the same value as 3 zones. Luckily I only use my concession pass now. ;-)

  • By Jhenifer Pabillano, January 11, 2010 @ 11:00 am

    Zack: yep, just as Kenny said, the YVR AddFare can only affect people travelling from a Sea Island Station to a station not on Sea Island – a Bridgeport to Richmond trip doesn’t go on Sea Island, so there’s no difference from now.

  • By ???, January 11, 2010 @ 9:41 pm

    With regards to taxi’s, it really depends on how close you are to the airport and how much luggage you plan to carry. As a heavy luggage traveller, I have always used cabs from SE Vancouver. With even larger groups, I have used the airport limo services.

    On the other hand, if I’m seeing friends off and meeting people arriving, I will use transit.

    As discussed on other threads, I have willingly paid premiums for Airport service in Hong Kong, San Francisco and Japan.

    As locals, we have the knowledge of prepaid fares to avoid the AddFare. It not uncommon around the world to have different prices for locals vs people from out of town.

    Then again, using local knowledge as an advantage, would YVR be breaking it’s “AirFair pricing”? That is a service at the airport should be the same as service not at the airport?

  • By Cliff, January 12, 2010 @ 4:47 am

    A family of four could simply to do several things to lessen or eliminate the AddFare.

    1. Buy a 1 zone faresaver booklet. Pay a cash Addfare for traveling to Vancouver.

    2. Buy a 2 zone faresaver booklet.

    3. Buy daypasses. Use them later in the day.

    4. Take free South Terminal shuttle to South terminal. Shuttle departs on the hour and half hour. Board C92 Bridgeport Station at South Terminal. C92 service is half hourly.

  • By David M, January 12, 2010 @ 8:19 am

    How is this improving transit to the airport? It’s a money grab, pure and simple.

    Before Canada Line, we had the option of the 424 bus to Airport Station and connections from there. The cost to get to Airport Station was a single zone fare $2.50 (to $10 for four people). Now it that fare jumps to an amazing $7.50 for one person, or $30 for four people.

    Did the taxi industry set this pricing.

    This is a subway – not a dedicated airtrain.

  • By Jhenifer Pabillano, January 12, 2010 @ 11:01 am

    David M: The fee is intended to cover the cost of building the train line. I guess it seems more like a bridge toll, rather than an added fare for extra service.

  • By David M, January 12, 2010 @ 11:50 am

    Thanks Jhenifer. One more and I’ll let it drop. I understand the need to recover the cost of building the line. But this approach is taking advantage of travelling public. There si no alternative other than taxis as the bus service was withdrawn. That’s my beef with this. Every other airport with add-fares or special fares have an alternative. Besides, YVR paid $300 for the the line to the airport, so shouldn’t it be the airport wanting to recover money – Translink shouldn’t be out at all.

    Okay – enough from me on this. I don’t like the toll or add-fare – its excessive and will give a bad first impression of Vancouver.

  • By Marvin B, January 15, 2010 @ 2:15 pm

    This $5 premium fee for leaving the airport is ridiculous! It’s complicated since only cash fares are applicable. Use a pass or fare saver and it’s exempt. Some people will feel ripped off, and I don’t blame them. If the airport wants to recoup costs of building the lines, YVR can collect this money in another way that doesn’t make this more difficult than need be. Collect money via an airport improvement fee as has been done for a while now. Why make yet another price point on the transit system!?!? Isn’t the pricing for metro Vancouver complicated enough already?

  • By Jhenifer Pabillano, January 18, 2010 @ 9:09 am

    Marvin B:
    Well, it’s really not a fee that’s just random. The fee is actually not going to the airport: it goes directly to TransLink to cover construction costs of the project. An airport transit fee was put in place when a funding gap for the Canada Line was identified in 2004, and the TransLink board at the time suggested that this fee be added to cover the costs. Not that this explanation somehow makes it enjoyable to pay… it’s just that the construction costs did need to be covered somehow, and the YVR AddFare was the method chosen.

  • By Karin G., January 30, 2010 @ 5:42 pm

    Hello. This blog states that the skytrain is free between all 3 skytrain stations on Sea Island (Airport – Templeton). When I called transit to confirm this, I was told that this wasn’t the case. It is important that I find out the truth about this…where would I go to find out for sure?

  • By Jhenifer Pabillano, February 1, 2010 @ 1:02 pm

    Karin:
    Yes, the Canada Line is free between all stations on Sea Island. This is confirmed by the TransLink website: see the FAQ found here.

  • By Sook, May 9, 2010 @ 9:15 pm

    DO you know whether I can buy daypass at the Airport? If so, when I buy daypass, do I also need to apy the addfare?

  • By Jhenifer Pabillano, May 11, 2010 @ 8:58 am

    Sook: here’s the answers from the YVR AddFare FAQ I posted on the blog:

    DayPasses and other pre-paid tickets can be purchased at any FareDealer location, and there are two in the vicinity of the airport: one at the Pharmasave on Level 1 (Domestic Departures) and another at the 7-11 store on Grant McConachie Way. DayPasses are not sold at TVMs on Sea Island.

    You don’t need to apply an AddFare for the DayPass: you can just validate it and use it in all zones all day.

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