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Canada Line bus connections and September bus changes are now online

Bus connections to the Canada Line are coming on September 7, along with a few more bus service changes.

Bus connections to the Canada Line are coming on September 7, along with a few more bus service changes.

As you may know, we’ll be adjusting bus service on September 7, providing connections with Canada Line as well as making regular seasonal service changes.

Our website now has all the info on these adjustments, along with tools and maps to help you understand how routes have changed.

Upcoming Canada Line bus connections

Bus service to four Canada Line stations. Check out the full Canada Line bus connections: try the <a href=http://www.translink.ca/en/Rider-Info/Canada-Line/Transit-Services.aspx#map>interactive map</a> here.

Bus service to four Canada Line stations. Try the full interactive map with all station connections.

Info about bus connections to the Canada Line can be found on the Connecting Transit Services page in the Canada Line section of the TransLink website.

We’ve also developed an interactive map to help you see which bus routes connect with each station.

Click any of the bus routes on the map, and you’ll reach a page with its route diagram and public timetable in PDF format.

And click the name of any Canada Line station, and you’ll reach a PDF station map showing where the station is, and where local bus connections can be found. (Check out the full list of Canada Line station maps here.)

Remember, all of these changes are effective September 7! If you’re looking for trip or stop info prior to Sept 7, you’ll need to use the Trip Planner or Bus Lookup.

Other September 7 bus adjustments: 3, 8, 160, discontinued service, plus bus bay changes

As well, our website now shows all bus service changes coming September 7. The routes on the list are all linked to pages containing PDFs of their route maps and schedules.

Key changes include the following:

    The 3 and 8 will switch downtown routings on September 7.

    The 3 and 8 will switch downtown routings on September 7. Click for a larger version of this diagram!

  • The 3 and 8 will trade downtown routings to accommodate the interlining of the 3 and 20 routes (that means their routes will be linked).

    Switching these routes around basically adds up to more cost efficiency and schedule reliability.

    Why? Well, the 3 can meet its schedule more reliably than the 8, partly because of improvements from the Main Street Showcase project (like bus bulges and traffic signal priority technology). As a result of the interline of the 3 and 20, the better 3 service will carry over to the linked 20 route, which will be improved to match the 3 service. Another result is that we can now extend all 20s back down to Harrison Loop during all time periods, a very common request from customers over the last year.

    The 8 is also planned to use articulated trolleys starting in December, and not having to go as deep into the downtown core will improve its reliability.

  • The 98 B-Line, 424, 488, 490, 491, 492, 496, and C95 will be discontinued, as Canada Line now provides rapid transit service between Vancouver, Richmond and YVR. (Side note: many 98 B-Line buses are earmarked for the 399, Surrey’s proposed new express route, which is planned for March 2010, and may be implemented depending on our funding decided by the Mayors’ Council this year — check out Paul Hillsdon’s post on the 399 for more.)
  • To provide better express service between Port Coquitlam to Vancouver, the 160 will no longer pick up westbound or drop off eastbound at five stops along Hastings Street in Burnaby: Sperling, Holdom, Willingdon, Gilmore, Kootenay. (It will still pick-up eastbound and drop-off westbound at those stops.) The 135 route provides full local service at these stops and will receive service frequency and capacity enhancements starting September 7.
  • Bus bays at Burrard Station will be reorganized since some Richmond-Vancouver service has been changed. Most buses will depart from different bays on September 7 — here’s a map of the changes.
  • The Richmond Centre bus loop bays will be reorganized, moved nearby, and re-named Richmond-Brighouse Station to reflect proximity to the new Richmond-Brighouse Station. Bus route names that have referred to “Richmond Centre” will now refer to “Richmond-Brighouse Station.” Here’s a map of the changes.

If you don’t know, we actually make seasonal adjustments to bus service just four times a year, reflecting major passenger ebbs and flows in April, June, September, and December. Look out for the next set of changes in December!


50 Comments

  • By David, August 21, 2009 @ 12:13 pm

    Thanks – some suggestions

    99 – wouldn’t it make sense to change the timing point from Granville to Cambie now that Granville is no longer a major transfer point (and Cambie is)?

    N10 – seems odd that there is now a 1 hour gap in service from the last Canada Line train (1:05pm) and the first N10 (2:10pm) – the 98 last bus was later, so it seems an earlier N10 is now needed.

    Also odd that the N10 does not serve the airport after the 3:10am trip from Vancouver, but good to see true 24 hour service in at least one corridor now (Richmond to Vancouver).

    It wold also make sense for the N10 and the N15 to switch – that is, the N10 terminate at Marpole or Marine Drive Station and the N15 extend to the airport and Richmond – this way the all night bus serves the same corridor as the Canada Line. The N10 routing is a remnant of Granville being the major transit connection (with the B-line and all the suburban buses that will stop running on it on Sept 7th) – this no longer makes any sense.

  • By David M, August 21, 2009 @ 12:30 pm

    Also – there’s a mistake in the No. 100 revisions – it says “no longer serve 22nd Street Station”, this should read “no longer serves Airport Station”

  • By Jhenifer Pabillano, August 21, 2009 @ 12:40 pm

    There sure are a lot of Davids around here!

    David M: thanks for the correction, we’ll fix that asap.

    David: I’ll see if we have any answers for you!

  • By Sungsu, August 21, 2009 @ 12:48 pm

    The SkyTrain station maps are also online. Click on my name.

  • By David, August 21, 2009 @ 12:49 pm

    Same David- I put an M after my name on the second post for some reason or other.

  • By Sungsu, August 21, 2009 @ 12:54 pm

    On the new Bridgeport Station map, it lists “C92 Sea Island North” instead of “C92 Sea Island South” for Bay 9.

  • By Jhenifer Pabillano, August 21, 2009 @ 2:03 pm

    David: Tricky!

    Sungsu: Thanks! We are correcting that too now.

  • By Dave2, August 21, 2009 @ 4:15 pm

    Since when was Broadway & Granville a timing point for the 99? It’s listed as (E) in the timetable.

  • By Rob, August 21, 2009 @ 4:56 pm

    Whats with the Richmond Centre bus bays? If you want to travel to Steveston you can take one of 401, 402, 407, or 410 but they use different bays. So you have to hope you picked the right one.

  • By Herb, August 21, 2009 @ 4:57 pm

    What exactly is meant by interlining? As I understand interlining, one route would provide local service while the other would provide limited service. how does this work for the 3 and 20?

  • By Shane, August 21, 2009 @ 5:22 pm

    Having all those SOF buses terminate at Bridgeport will have a very positive impact on noise and pollution for folks spending time downtown.

  • By David M, August 21, 2009 @ 6:48 pm

    Interlining is when a bus arrives at a location, usually a bus station, as one route and then continues as another route.

  • By Eric, August 21, 2009 @ 6:50 pm

    @David (1st commenter) and Dave2: I still think the timing point should remain at Granville, even if the times shown are (E)stimated departure times. Granville may no longer have the 98 and the suburban services, but that intersection is still significant as a transfer point for the 9, 10, 16, 17, all of which also use that intersection as a timing point.

    @Herb: In the case of the 3 and the 20, an interline means that a 3 Downtown turns around and becomes a 20 Victoria; conversely, a 20 Downtown becomes a 3 Main.

  • By Sungsu, August 21, 2009 @ 6:55 pm

    I wonder why the 135 does not connect with the Canada Line. Westbound it stops at Homer and then Burrard Station. Eastbound it stops at Hornby and at Richards.

  • By Jassal, August 21, 2009 @ 10:46 pm

    how come no added buses to 49 route there should be a change there

  • By East Vancouverite, August 22, 2009 @ 6:43 pm

    Jhenifer, could you please talk to a colleague about including “you are here” dots and notations on the Transit Connections maps and for the new Waterfront Station layout maps? A sign for the Canada Line should also be located at on the ticketing level of the Howe Street entrance for Waterfront Station. I have been stopped at that location several times this week by people asking for directions to the C-Line.

    Thanks!

  • By Mark, August 23, 2009 @ 1:50 pm

    I must second the comment about N10 service being extended to cover the entire overnight period, but skipping the airport. Jhennifer, did you have any luck on following up on this? It just seems a little ridiculous. Flights arrive at and depart from YVR throughout the night…even if there aren’t many of them.

  • By Jhenifer Pabillano, August 24, 2009 @ 1:33 pm

    Hi everyone,

    Courtesy of a very kind planner over at CMBC, here are some answers to your questions!

    Why do the extra N10 trips in the early AM don’t go to the airport?
    The additional service on the N10 is in response to the replacement of the 98 B-Line with the Canada Line. Currently the 98 B-Line provides service outside the range of the Canada Line schedule in the early AM. Introducing these early morning/late night trips will maintain the existing service between Richmond and downtown for these customers.

    Why is there a one hour gap in service between Canada Line and N10?
    Based on our ridership analysis, the service provided with the last Canada Line from Waterfront Station (1:15am) and the first N10 (2:09am) is sufficient for the demand. However, we will be monitoring this closely and will adjust the service if necessary.

    Why aren’t the N10 and N15 switching for the integration?
    Good question. Our NightBus planner is currently reviewing the options to improve the NightBus service connections between Vancouver and Richmond with the introduction of the Canada Line. Our goal is to provide a transfer point for the two services (N10 and N15), possibly at Bridgeport Station.

    The reason this wasn’t planned with the rest of the integration for September is because back in the Spring there were still plans to implement significant service changes to the NightBus system in December 2009. Therefore, this project would have been introduced in December, in addition with other significant changes to the NightBus. Unfortunately, due to budgetary constraints, the NightBus system upgrades project scheduled for December has been postponed. So we are currently seeking other creative ways of improving the connections on the N10/N15.

    Why doesn’t the 135 connect with the Canada Line?
    Once the construction at Hastings and Granville is completed, the two stops in the eastbound and westbound direction should be re-opened. The 135 will use these stops, providing direct connections with the Canada Line.

    Why aren’t there any service changes to the #49?
    We only have a finite amount of additional resources/buses. We will be monitoring the service closely though and will make adjustments if necessary. Keep in mind that the integration plan is not just for the September service changes. The integration plan will be ongoing over the next year as we adapt/improve our service to maximize the benefits of what the Canada Line provides.

  • By Jhenifer Pabillano, August 24, 2009 @ 1:35 pm

    East Vancouverite: I passed your comments along to the dept in charge of those maps. Hopefully they will find it helpful!

  • By Jhenifer, August 24, 2009 @ 2:18 pm

    Jhenifer, could you please pass on the word about having “Please change trains at Bridgeport for travel to Richmond City Centre” onboard train announcements for inbound trains from YVR. I’ve noticed quite a few people going past Bridgeport, not knowing they had to get off at Bridgeport to get to Richmond.

  • By ;-), August 24, 2009 @ 7:59 pm

    Passengers going to the wrong route must be a secret plan to keep the ridership numbers high…. 8-)

    @Jassal: I too am concerned about 49 service. Even before the Canada Line in operation, it’s not surprising to see many left behind at Victoria Westbound in the morning. We’ll just have to see how bad it is in September.

    Also would it be possible to move the Eastbound Manitoba time stop for the #49 to Cambie? It’s silly to have Canada Line passengers see a bus leave early only to see it waiting at Manitoba because it’s ahead of schedule.

    It happened to me last Sunday morning and the second bus was a no show, a 15 minute wait turned into 35 minutes!

  • By David, August 25, 2009 @ 6:05 pm

    I just had a look at the online schedules for the #3 and #20. Currently the #20 operates every 6 minutes in the afternoon peak. When combined with the #3 in September, service will be REDUCED to every 7 minutes.

    Could you explain how TransLink considers fewer buses “improved service”?

  • By Chris, August 26, 2009 @ 12:02 pm

    Any idea when Google Maps/Transit will be updated? I have friends visiting next weekend, and they almost planned to take the bus from the airport because Google Transit didn’t have the Canada Line as an option.

  • By Jordan, August 26, 2009 @ 9:16 pm

    I’m absolutely stunned by the plan to remove all service along Granville with the exception of the 10 (which will now have one extra bus every 90 minutes). It is understandable that the 98 and 4xx express buses should not be coming from Richmond, but for anyone who takes the bus from South Granville regularly knows, there is a massive amount of people that take those buses downtown from that area. Transferring to the C-line is a ridiculous option, it would take just as long to go east to Cambie from that area as it does to actually get downtown! I’m surprised an option similar to what is done with the 22 has not been considered, introducing a new short route from King Ed to Downtown only. I would be surprised if ridership in the South Granville area is less than that in the Kitsilano area serviced by the 2 and the 22.

    Jhenifer, will Translink staff be monitoring ridership in that area to assess if the 10 will be sufficient to meet demand? I would be incredibly surprised if it is, and will unfortunately likely buy a parking pass to start driving downtown.

  • By Jhenifer Pabillano, August 27, 2009 @ 10:01 am

    Chris:

    So here’s what Customer Information has told me about transit data on Google Maps.

    Google’s transit map data is based on our transit data. That is, we make the data available online, and then the following Friday, Google uses an automatic process to extract it and put it on their map by the Monday afterward. (On average, the Google map data is 1-2 weeks old.)

    We did get the Canada Line info ready for Google Maps before the Aug 17 launch — but the automated process didn’t recognize that the early Line data was actually going to be effective starting Aug 17, and so it didn’t put the info into its maps the week afterward.

    So now we’ve asked Google to manually extract the data rather than wait for a Friday to get the info on the maps sooner, and we’re hoping Google can do this for us.

    Otherwise, it is expected that the Canada Line should appear on Google sometime the week of August 31 (unless there are data issues) in which case it would appear the week of September 7 (worst case scenario).

    However, in the meantime, you can still find the Canada Line info in the TransLink trip planner, and you can go to the SkyTrain Station Maps page to see maps of the Canada Line stations and their exact locations.

    Long story short: while Google Maps is incredibly useful and a huge tool for many people, it’s still a third party service and relies on grabbing our data to get the info on its site. We’re definitely trying to make it work for you as well as we can!

  • By Jhenifer Pabillano, August 27, 2009 @ 10:08 am

    ;-):

    Btw I checked with CMBC and Cambie *is* the timing point for the 49. It may have been that the TMAC system was telling the operator he was early at Manitoba, and therefore he waited out his time at that stop.

  • By ;-), August 27, 2009 @ 11:19 am

    Thanks for the update on the Cambie timing point. However when I looked at the Translink website, it states the timing point for Eastbound service is at Manitoba. The other location is at Boulevard and Metrotown. For Westbound service it’s McKinnon and Granville.

    Just double-checked on the Translink website.

  • By Sungsu, August 27, 2009 @ 12:18 pm

    Manitoba is the current timing point. Cambie will be the timing point for the 49 in both directions starting on September 7.

  • By Jhenifer Pabillano, August 27, 2009 @ 12:29 pm

    Jordan:
    I’m certain our staff will be monitoring the routes to see if adjustments are needed to meet demand.
    Also, feel free to submit your concerns over to Customer Relations: that way it will be logged in our formal feedback system and will be sent to the correct staff!

  • By Jhenifer Pabillano, August 27, 2009 @ 2:23 pm

    ;-):

    You are right! I went back to ask CMBC about it and yes, they have corrected themselves, as the timing point is currently Manitoba. And I have some info on that if you’re curious:

    The timing point on the paddle in both directions is Manitoba. We had that changed a few years ago at the request of students from Langara. Eastbound the timing point used to be 49&Main and the same thing
    happened, the buses would end up sitting at Main and students would see it from Manitoba. Westbound, same thing: the timing point, I believe, used to be Cambie, the bus would end up sitting there.

    However yes, Sungsu is right, Cambie will be the timing point for the 49 starting on Sept 7, according to the website. So, there you have it!

  • By Wupop, August 28, 2009 @ 10:07 am

    @David (aug 25 re. #20)

    The improvement is that there will be no more turnaround at 54th, with all buses going to the end at Harrison Loop, and that the new partner, #3 is supposed to have better on-time performance than the previous partner, #8.

  • By Sungsu, August 28, 2009 @ 11:43 am

    Are there any plans to move the westbound 43 stop at Cambie from the east side of the intersection to the west side? With the dedicated left-turn phases, it takes forever to cross both Cambie and 41st Ave.

  • By Marvin Boutlier, August 28, 2009 @ 1:09 pm

    I’ve been on the 49 many times and think the timing point for eastbound buses should be Cambie Street and should be Manitoba Street for westbound buses. That way you can get train passengers and Langara students on trips going each direction.

    Also, because many passengers are left on the sidewalk, there should be special peak time buses that cut into service somewhere along 49th for eastbound trips. Perhaps start at Main Street and be positioned to be only a few minutes behind the bus that got packed at Langara. Maybe also a special peak time bus going westbound starting at Cambie? Then everyone gets picked up!

  • By Jim, August 28, 2009 @ 8:44 pm

    I agree with Sungsu consolidation of the two westbound 43 stops would be nice on the farside of 41st Ave. I also have noticed that there are now seperate stops for the 41 and 43 east bound which can be confusing for people if possible combining them to one spot would be useful. I would also like added a additional bus shelter as this stop is a busy one and getting more busy with the Canada Line connection. This will be especially helpful in the wet seasons of Sept through May.

  • By Reva, August 29, 2009 @ 7:13 pm

    If the #20 won’t be using the 54th Avenue Loop anymore, what is going to happen to the loop? Will Translink sell the property, or will they keep it for a backup turnaround point for icy days etc.? Just curious.

  • By ;-), August 30, 2009 @ 8:57 am

    The Victoria 54th streetcar turnaround is very popular with drivers. Especially after their morning coffee. Unlike others comments, I like the current arrangements. Northbound service at Victoria ‘n 49th was much more reliable and the drivers were much more refreshed. With a policy against “trucker bombs”, I expect drivers to leave early Northbound to get to their bio-breaks at 54th and leave late being caught in a line-up fighting for that single outhouse.

    By eliminating 54th option, I also hope they don’t go back to the old policy of short turning at 41st when they frequently fall behind schedule coming from downtown congestion. There is a strong service demand between 41st and 54th, throughout the day.

    In the 2005 Vancouver Area transit plan, there was an option to short turn every second bus at Hastings and Commercial (click my name and go to page 6-31/PDF page 159)….

    THIS CONCEPT ALSO INCLUDES TERMINATING SOME DAYTIME AND PEAK #20 VICTORIA TRIPS AT POWELL STREET: ALTERNATE TRIPS ON THE #20 WOULD TERMINATE AT COMMERCIAL AND POWELL DURING PERIODS WHEN #20 SERVICE IS AT LEAST EVERY 10 MINUTES. THIS WOULD ALLOW MORE SERVICE TO BE PROVIDED ON THE BUSIEST PART OF THE #20 ROUTE. THIS WOULD BE SUPPORTED BY INCREASED LOCAL AND LIMITED-STOP (#95 B-LINE) SERVICE ON HASTINGS.

    When the plan was implemented the short-turning happened at 54th instead. Also Downtown and Chinatown congestion continues to plague reliability (Broadway south), despite the redundant Hastings segment.

  • By Jhenifer Pabillano, September 1, 2009 @ 12:36 pm

    Reva: I’ve asked CMBC about the loop and here’s the answer.

    Great question! The loop will continue to be used for short-turns to
    ensure service reliability on the #20. Particularly, as the reader has pointed out, during difficult weather conditions.

  • By ;-), September 1, 2009 @ 1:01 pm

    OK, just did it…. Feedback Id: 164339

    For those wanting to see the benefits of platform markings, have a look at this flickr picture on my name link.

    Although I disagree with the center arrow should be pointed outward to indicate keeping the path open for people exiting the train. This is much more helpful that the current signs asking people to stand back.

  • By Jhenifer Pabillano, September 1, 2009 @ 1:46 pm

    Sungsu: I sent CMBC your question about the 43 stops, and here’s the answer.

    This has been done. The WB #41 and #43 bus stops are on the west side of Cambie Street. Therefore customers transferring only have to cross one intersection to access them.

  • By Dave 2, September 2, 2009 @ 5:00 pm

    Speaking of google maps, the data for the location of bus stop 58767 at VCC clark station shows it quite a ways north on Glen Drive. The station isn’t quite right either, but it’s closer to reality than the bus stop!

    http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=49.267392,-123.080456&spn=0.004166,0.008905&z=17&iwloc=lyrftr:w2.106,0x5486714484e74987:0x86b1849ebdaf0050,49.267258,-123.080885

  • By David, September 3, 2009 @ 1:04 pm

    @Wupop re: #20

    The #20 doesn’t interline with the #8 now. They use completely different equipment. The #20 uses articulated buses whereas the #8 uses standard 40-foot trolleys.

    I’m sure the small fraction of customers living south of 54th will be delighted that every bus will be going to Harrison Drive, but even they are going to be upset at the increased crowding caused by having less frequent service on the rest of the route. I still contend that service on the #20 is being reduced next week.

    By her silence on the issue I assume Jhenifer agrees with me.

  • By David, September 3, 2009 @ 1:14 pm

    I rode the #41 again this morning and there are two locations on the WB route where there are two stops at essentially the same intersection. The Chester stop is really close to the Fraser stop and the Ash stop is almost as close to Cambie as the Cambie stop is. I’m guessing both places are extremely high traffic, but it’s still weird to see stops on both sides of an intersection.

    The NB #22 has a similar situation where there are two stops in the short block between King Edward and Kingsway.

  • By ;-), September 3, 2009 @ 1:49 pm

    I hope the #20 isn’t being reduced coming out the summer. The #20 is heavily used between Broadway and 54th. It’s not uncommen to see huge lineups Southbound from the 2 Skytrain and #99 Bline dumps.

    If they want reduced frequencies North of Broadway or South of 54thn we should short turn the #20 buses at 54 and Broadway.

  • By Jhenifer Pabillano, September 3, 2009 @ 2:03 pm

    David:
    Well, as far as I know, my silence is just silence :) I’m totally neutral on this one: I have no idea how this will affect either line besides what the planners have told me.

  • By Jhenifer Pabillano, September 3, 2009 @ 2:32 pm

    David:
    Just wanted to add that I passed your comments about the #20 on to our planners at CMBC, and here is the response.

    I think “Wupop” captured it quite well:

    “The improvement is that there will be no more turnaround at 54th, with all buses going to the end at Harrison Loop, and that the new partner,
    #3 is supposed to have better on-time performance than the previous partner, #8.”

    He is right though, the frequency has slightly decreased during the PM peak. But now the #20 should be able to better stay on schedule, as opposed to the “bunching-buses” that takes place currently. Sending all of the buses to Harrison Loop also evens the loads out which will reduce
    pass-ups. In our opinion, this is an improvement. However, he certainly has the right to disagree.

  • By Nicky, April 8, 2010 @ 11:53 am

    There are too many buses going to harrison loop when there is a loop at 54th. There are three old people homes at the loop and the residents living across from the loop are disables and elderly they already have problems when theyre parking spots are taken by these buses. Harrison loop was never a big loop and shouldn’t become one some buses should rest at the 54th loop

  • By Jhenifer Pabillano, April 8, 2010 @ 4:52 pm

    Nicky: I sent your comment over to CMBC, and they’ve let me know that they are aware of this issue and are currently exploring possible solutions. I’ll update you with more as I hear from them!

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