Remember: major bus changes are coming on Mon Sept 7!
September 2, 2009
Remember: major bus changes are coming on Mon Sept 7!
September 2, 2009
Just another reminder to everyone that major bus changes are coming on Monday September 7. Make sure you know if your journey is affected!
We always adjust bus service in September to match higher passenger volumes, but this year our changes are much bigger, since we’re integrating bus routes with the Canada Line and making other improvements.
Street teams are out to help spread the word, and you can also find out about these changes online:
- Here’s the full list of transit service changes, from the main TransLink website. (Check to see if your bus route is on there!)
- Here’s an interactive map and a full list of the Canada-Line-related bus changes. Click the bus routes on the map to get route diagrams and schedules, and click the station names to get a map of the station plus local bus connections.
- Here’s a link to all the Canada Line station maps.
- Here’s a Buzzer blog post that highlighted the major changes expected on Sept 7 — there’s a lot of discussion in the comments there too.
And here’s a recap of the major changes expected on Monday:
- The 3 and the 8 will trade downtown Vancouver routes (this post tells why)
- The 98 B-Line, 424, 488, 490, 491, 492, 496, and C95 will be discontinued, as Canada Line now provides rapid transit service between Vancouver, Richmond and YVR.
- The 160 won’t pick up WB or drop off EB at five stops along Hastings Street in Burnaby: Sperling, Holdom, Willingdon, Gilmore, Kootenay. (It will still pick-up EB and drop-off WB at those stops.) The 135 route provides full local service at these stops and will be improved starting September 7. (See this post for more info.)
- Three bus loops will see bus bay changes: Burrard Station, Richmond-Brighouse (formerly Richmond Centre) and Marpole Loop.
- Commercial Drive Station and Broadway Station will be merged and renamed Commercial-Broadway Station. Go here for more info.
Again, if you don’t know, we actually make seasonal adjustments to bus service just four times a year, reflecting major passenger ebbs and flows in April, June, September, and December. Look out for the next set of changes in December!
The Richmond-Brighouse bus loop has got to be one of the most poorly planned bus loop in the entire Metro Vancouver region. I thought a unified bus loop (similar to the Lonsdale loop) in one location would be built, just east of the station on the currently empty lands. What happened to that original plan? That plan was shown at one of the early C-line open houses 2-3 years ago.
As for 403/401 routes, placing them at different bays for north/southbound and west/eastbound respectively would be very confusing at best.
Henry A:
I’m just in the process of getting more info about the status of the Brighouse loop right now… stay tuned!
Any news on when the 135 will be made a B-Line? It’s long overdue!
One of the changes that was noted was that the 19 Stanley Park/Downtown route will discontinue its seasonal summer shuttle service to Stanley Park, does that mean that it will no longer serve the Stanley Park loop?
The 19 will still serve the Stanley Park loop.
Only the summer shuttle service between Stanley Park and West Pender St at Cambie St is being discontinued. That started in June and ran from 9 a.m. to 8 p.m. weekdays and 10 a.m. to 6 p.m. weekends/holidays.
I really want to know any progress about B-Lines on Hastings Street and 41st Ave. Especially the one on 41st Ave, because it always gets so crowded at any time any day.
I was told it was the 3 /20 not 3 /8
The 3 & 8 are switching downtown routings, but the 3 & 20 will be interlined (a.k.a. their routes will be connected). Check out this earlier post for more info.
That lady in the picture looks surprised…
“There’s how many?!”Lol
CJ! I saw you on TV taste-testing mini donuts at the PNE!
Amy & Tim Chen:
Good question re: B-Lines. Unfortunately, I don’t really have a definite answer for you. I’ve asked our planning staff, and putting in these services will completely depend on what kind of funding we will get in the future. The Mayors’ Council will be deciding on that funding come October 31 — you can find out more about our funding/planning process and the options before the Council in this blog post or this planning page on the main TransLink site.
The new stops along Saba Road at Brighouse Station are just until the new bus loop is built on the cureent Scotiabank site…
Wish that the comment about the C89 seasonal service ending included the word EXTENTION! The route is NOT ending, just the seasonal EXTENTION to Centennial Beach…
Regarding the #19 Service, they are only cancelling the EXTRA seasonal “Shuttle” service between downtown and the park. The regular year round through service will continue as is…
For all those people wanting SEMI Express SERVICE along Granville St. in Vancouver up to 41st Ave in order to get downtown; my advice is to use #480.
Frequency is greatly improved and using that bus will get you all the way down to 41st.
Private school students can transfer to a #10 local to King Ed for the schools there or commuters heading downtown can catch #43 over to Oakridge for C-Line.
Mark D.,
If you get off at the 480 at 41st, you might as well just take the 10 downtown. The 10 hardly stops between 41st and 16th, except at King Edward, at least outside of peak hours.
Currently the Canada Line trip with the 98b is ok except in the evening from Waterfront to Richmond. The trains are already getting overcrowded causing poor behaviour from passengers fighting to get to seats and so on. Due to the rudeness of people on the Waterfront -> Richmond service I travel on YVR bound trains only.
So, if crowding gets worse as a result of bus changes I assume translink will consider increasing the number of Canada Line trains? I hope so as the 98b was like a cattle truck and we don’t need this for the Canada Line thanks very much!!
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I tend to believe that the Canada Line would have been better as a Light Rail Line. Surface Transit has important benefits including: superior access to Streetscape, superior exposure of Storefronts to potential customers (the transit passenger), (and as a result of the last benefits) the growth and establishment of walk-in type businesses. Not to mention the exciting journey and views Transit Riders experience as they travel through neighbourhoods, instead of in a boring tunnel underground.
Had LRT been used for Canada Line, it would be much easier and affordable to extend the line, since heavy rail has limited and expensive alignment options.
I suppose that the reason for heavy rail would be to provide adequate capacity. But then, why are the trains and stations so short? I’ve seen Light Rail stations and trains longer than the Canada Line stations.
What do you think of these points? Could there be other reasons besides capacity why heavy rail was chosen?
@Jacob
The Canada Line is a LRT Line and not heavy rail. The only addition is that it is completely underground in the City of Vancouver.
Politically there was no chance of this line ever being at surface level when it went through Vancouver. To many nimbies didn’t want to see it. So it was put underground.
I agree with Paul, a lot of people are confusing grade separation with heavy rail. The West Coast Express is heavy rail.
The original Canada Line proposal was to have it elevated Kind Edward South, not at-grade as the high train frequency would mess up cross traffic too much.
The Heritage Boulevard group insisted it be underground to preserve trees.
Richmond Mayor and nearly all of council wanted it at-grade…. until they got a reality check of where the cross streets would be…. I think it was Westminster, Alderbridge, and Bridgeport. With the 99 Richmond Bus Only lanes traffic disaster, council and mayor changed their votes to avoid worsening No 3 traffic.
As mentioned in another thread, the UBC line has many residents wanting a full tunnel to preserve the street ambience.