Links and tidbits for Fri Nov. 12
November 12, 2010
Links and tidbits for Fri Nov. 12
November 12, 2010
Just a couple of tidbits and links rounded up about transportation in the past week!
- Emily Carr University students passed a referendum to implement the U-Pass at their school, under the new U-Pass BC program introduced this year.
- A couple of articles arose around West Coast Express’s 15th anniversary: this Province article talks about the costs for the system, and the Maple Ridge News talks about possible expansion of service.
- Edmonton is considering installing annunciators in its buses—also, yes, that is a TransLink trolley bus in the photo! We loaned that bus to Edmonton as a trial in 2008.
- A strike has shut down transit in St John’s, Newfoundland.
- A Montreal subway car was captured travelling with its doors open.
- Jason Vanderhill passed along a song called Bus Stop by local artist Asha Diaz! (Click the song in the playlist.)
- Look: the world’s first transit appliance! Thanks to Eric for the link :)
- Nathaniel sent along a lovely transit story: “My bus driver reads Whoopi Goldberg.”
- Richmond has added a new bike trail that connects to the Canada Line bike and pedestrian bridge.
- The Canada Line wins a national engineering award!
- Audacity has launched Priority Seating, a new blog about riding transit, with a focus on passengers with disabilities.
- Ric asked to share these WCE photos with everyone.
- Go Transit is implementing a new passenger charter: here’s a review of its main points from the National Post.
- Human Transit has some great posts as always: Guangzhou abandons its free fare trial, and a post about bus stop spacing.
- And last but not least: Valley Metro in Phoenix has a project where they ask local bands to perform songs about how to use transit. Here’s how to ride the bus, and how to ride light rail! Thanks to BC Transit for the link :)
If you have any items to suggest, or a photo to showcase on these posts, e-mail me at thebuzzer@translink.ca! (Seriously: good photos. These posts need them. Send them along!)
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The free transit data given by other transit agencies and shown used here makes me want to ask… does TransLink have any plans on trying to do that as well? ^^; I can just imagine… homemade LED next bus stop displays popping up at storefronts. =P Or maybe I’ll even just build one for my personal use, showing the buses and where they are in relation to the four stops around my house. =)
hmm… looking at that photo… is the Harry Potter sport of Quidditch coming to Vancouver? Yes it’s a “real” sport now… here’s the World Cup website. :O
http://www.internationalquidditch.org/
Allan: We do offer schedule and stop data for developers to use—check them out here: http://www.translink.ca/en/Schedules-and-Maps/Developer-Resources.aspx
I do acknowledge that TranLink has provided schedule and stop data free of charge on their website, but there are other systems that also provide free GPS live-tracking data as well, like the one used in the Portland transit appliance above. Similar free GPS feeds are also permitted in Boston and San Francisco if I recall, and there was an article in Boston about a shopkeeper who made their own LED sign showing the next buses at the nearest stops for customers’ convenience. Does TransLink have any plans in the future to do that, or are there limitations to bandwidth or tracking that I might not be aware of? Thanks.
Allan: Yes, we definitely have plans to get the real-time data out! It’s currently being worked on by our IT dept and there’s just a lot of work involved in the project, especially to ensure reliability of the data being sent out. I’m not sure of the exact time estimate but sadly it appears to be long—maybe a year or more?
About Vancouver stop spacing, currently, the bus stops range from 50 meters to about 200 meters- Most stops are 150 meters. Jarrett Walker recommends that stops are about 400 meters apart. Does Translink have any plan to increase the space between stops?
I think the Blines already have 400 meters plus. As the average population age continues to increase, many will welcome the shorter walks to the bus stops. Is there a route or location where you would like to see 400 meter spacing?
With regards to real-time data…. can we not just publish the information from the Main Street Art project ( http://buzzer.translink.ca/index.php/2009/08/what-are-those-weird-poles-at-the-main-street-bus-stops/ ) onto the Translink website?
Jacob: The stop spacing in the region is determined in conjunction with the municipalities, and we follow TransLink’s Transit Service Guidelines (found on the Transportation Planning page) to determine exactly how far stops should be apart. Differing services have differing requirements, and page 7 of the Transit Service Guidelines has the exact numbers, which are:
STOP SPACING SHOULD BE AT LEAST:
BUS 250 metres (both near & farside stops permitted at major transfer points)
EXPRESS COACH 250 metres (in local service area)
B-LINE 500 metres to 1,500 metres average spacing on route
COMMUNITY SHUTTLE Flexible to serve local conditions
I’m assuming that relaying GPS data for a few lines is fine, like how it is used on Highway 99 at Steveston and on Main Street. However, there might be larger loads placed on servers if the data for hundreds of routes had to be released simultaneously.
This does bring up another question though: what happened to most of the LED screens on the Main Street stops? Many of them have disappeared… even at major intersections… only the power boxes and/or cables remain. I was hoping they’d stay around longer, especially at places where the #3 bus crosses other bus routes.
Allan: The displays aren’t there? I’ll ask about it—the displays are intended to stay up. I think they may be just getting fixed.
Allan: here’s the answer from the Main Street showcase project staff.
The problem with stop spacing has to do with how far you have to travel on a route.
Everyone would love to get on at a stop and have the bus go non stop to the stop they want to get off at. That would be perfect for each individual. But of course others have to get and off at stops in between where we want to get on and off.
So having a small stop spacing helps people with them walking less of a distance. But it slows down the people who are already on the bus.
Whats need in Vancouver is more limited stop routes. That would run with routes that have local stops. A good example is Broadway with the 99 and the 9. 41st Ave has it during peak with the 43 and 41. Each bus route helps the other. One is designed to move people quicker by not having to stop at every stop. The other is meant to deal with more shorter distance travelling.
Don’t get rid of stops to make the average distance greater. Just implement a new route with limited stop service.
Of course the funds to operate this don’t exist right now. :)
;-): About your question on the Main St display signs. Here’s what I’m told: