Important: Dunsmuir St bus stops east of Howe to be discontinued, Mon May 24
May 21, 2010
Important: Dunsmuir St bus stops east of Howe to be discontinued, Mon May 24
May 21, 2010
The City of Vancouver has just approved a dedicated bike lane for Dunsmuir Street, and due to construction of that lane, some of the bus stops running along Dunsmuir Street will be taken out of service on Monday May 24.
This affects riders of the 210, 211, 214, N8, and N24. Here is exactly what it means for you:
- The #210 Upper Lynn Valley, #211 Seymour/Phibbs Exchange, the #214 Phibbs Exchange/Downtown (after 8pm) and #214 Blueridge/Phibbs Exchange will come into Vancouver along Pender as far as Howe, then turn up Howe and then on Dunsmuir to the terminus at Burrard Station. (Here’s a PDF reroute map: btw the diagram shows Carrall St, but buses are temporarily using Main while Carroll is being worked on.)
- The N8 Fraser NightBus will move from Bay 3 at Howe and Dunsmuir to Bay 1. (PDF reroute map)
- The N24 Upper Lonsdale NightBus will travel along Georgia to Seymour, then down Seymour to Pender, along Pender to Howe and up to the NightBus terminus at Howe and Dunsmuir. This is a new terminus for the N24. (PDF reroute map)
Signs will be posted, notifying customers of the discontinued stops! For more information, please call Customer Information at 604-953-3333.
Incredible to see the bike push in Vancouver. A safe connected separated bike path network in the city will get average people riding, not just bike enthusiasts willing to ride beside drivers who often forget they are piloting a few tons of steel.
Seems like the south side of Dunsmuir would be a better location for the bike lanes, for several reasons.
– wouldn’t affect bus stops
– oncoming traffic would always be on the left as usually expected
– right turns on red to/from Dunsmuir would still work
– gives space back to the ramp from Main so there’s room to merge
– bikes could turn to/from Phase 2 bike lanes on Hornby more easily
The only disadvantage I can see is that it would complicate the intersection of Prior and Gore, but I don’t think that would be a huge problem to deal with.
Don’t suppose there’s some way to get the plan adjusted at this point, though?
I am deeply insulted by these latest impacts…. Pender is already crippled by dual bike lanes at just a block away. Now Dunsmuir?
Time to boycott all businesses downtown.
Funny how for the past 3 or 4 years the Dunsmuir Viaduct was down to 2 lanes with little disruption, but moving the closed lane to the north side has caused it to back up all the way to Main after about 8:15 AM…. imho, it’s the “No Right Turn” at Beatty that is causing this….
Jhenifer, I know you don’t like me posting these types of comments on the blog but I was just wondering if you are still helping me find answers to questions that I ask?
JHENIFER, YES I AM GOING TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF QUESTIONS THAT I ASK AND WHEN I DO HAPPEN TO ASK QUESTIONS I WILL REALLY THINK THEM THROUGH BEFORE I ASK THEM AND READ THROUGH THE POSTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVEN’T BEEN ASKED AND/OR ANSWERED BEFORE.
By the way, I e-mailed you my address for you to mail me a set of buzzer buttons and I was just wondering if you have mailed them out yet?
The south side of Dunsmuir might work a little better. That way, bus service would be less affected.
A left on red ban would then need to be instituted on Beatty, Cambie, Hamilton, Homer, etc… for any traffic turning on to Dunsmuir.
As pointed out earlier, people aren’t used to remaining stopped on a red light to turn right, but for left turns, people rarely turn left on the red, at least from a two way street anyway.
I’ve emailed my thoughts on the south side bike lane to cycling@vancouver.ca; if you agree, probably a good idea to send a note that way yourself. :)
I’ve been thinking about a south side bike line. In hindsight, I’m not sure it would be much better. There are left turns at Howe and Burrard where the lane ends as a left turn queue.
They get pretty heavy usage and one has to wonder how cyclists or motorists will navigate that. The obvious thing to do would be to have a separate traffic signal for cyclists and have the cyclists stop while traffic is permitted to turn left. The left at Howe would then be changed to a “no left on red” to help facilitate this.
I don’t know how cyclists would take to dedicated traffic signals as it seems they don’t often take the “normal” ones seriously to begin with.
Another option, though very strange, would be to have the bike lanes right down the centre with a divider (cones or concrete depending on space constraints).
People planning to turn left would stay on the left half of Dunsmuir and people planning turning right would stay on the right half. No rights or lefts on red would be permitted on any street turning onto Dunsmuir, but Dunsmuir’s ‘flow’ wouldn’t be affected as red turn movements could still be permitted. Also, as the lanes end (by way of becoming left turn bays)the bicycle lane would slowly shift left becoming a curbside bike lane after Burrard!
And anybody turning onto Dunsmuir would simply have to pay attention to what street they intend to turn off at and turn onto the appropriate half (only when the light is green).
Moreover, pedestrian signals would be changed at other one way streets so green light movements off streets that cross Dunsmuir don’t interfere with the crosswalks by way of making the crosswalk on the other side and having no crosswalk where traffic turns onto Dunsmuir!
[…] Dunsmuir Street re-routes continue to be in effect. […]
Cycling with Transit…
http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20100727/bc_redlight_gregor_100727/20100727
???: Eep!